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Temps around 42F today and weather prophets are calling for chances of snow later today so I took off for a short ride through the country. Only rode 33 miles since I didn't want to be out when the snow arrived but was a nice ride. I am realizing that getting older is causing my circulation to get worse. I used to be able to handle temps down to just below 30F with just my PolarTex gloves and primary jacket liner. Last year I needed to add an extra liner and turn on electric heat for the hands around 35F. This year seems to be closer to 40F to start with the electric heat. I guess I'll just have to start getting out and walk around the neighborhood more to improve that.

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Yet another trip to the store... 4.5 miles round trip turned into 15 miles round trip. Wanted to test something with my Tourmaster jacket. I currently have the Flex Series 2 jacket which has a mesh base, an outer solid shell, and an inner thermal liner. When temps go below 40F I sometimes will also add the joined rain and thermal liners from my previous Flex Series 1 jacket that this one replaced after being shredded in a low side crash that year (no liners were being worn but only the outer shell). That older jacket did its job since there were no injuries but the jacket was trashed. I can usually get down to around 15F with this combo and added heated gloves. Adding more layers to get even colder. The outer solid shell of my current jacket is starting to fall apart. The collar has holes in it and the zipper on one pocket is broken and unusable. The other pocket is showing signs of breaking as is the main zipper. All the edges are frayed and I've replaced the velcro strips all over at least twice now. I consider this to be fairly good considering I have worn the jacket in one configuration or another almost every day since summer of 2010 and I ride to work with it almost every day as well as longer trips.

The one jacket I want to replace this with is the TM Pivot Touring jacket. The main difference is that instead of a removable solid outer shell the Pivot has very large zippered openings. 2 on the chest, almost half the front, and one that covers almost the entire back. The covers for these do not remove but fold down inside the jacket. It also returns to the dual inner liner configuration (rain and thermal liners like the previous jacket) rather than just a thermal liner inside. The problem with the Pivot is that it is a discontinued item and becoming very hard to find at a reasonable price, if I can find my size at all. I won't pay MSRP for any jacket since there are too many to be found for much less.

The alternate choice for me is the TM Intake Air 5.0 jacket. This one is full mesh (like my current base layer) and has the dual inner liners but no outer solid shell. I've heard from someone (sorry, don't remember who) that they had the 4.0 version and used it down to around 25F with all the liners in.

This was my test: I removed the outer solid shell of my current jacket but added the thermal liner plus the dual rain/thermal liners from my older jacket. I rode on the Interstate for part of my ride and with temps around 40F was very comfortable with this configuration. After I stopped at the store I added my Frogg Togg jacket over it all for the ride home and found that was almost too warm, tending to being hot, since the rain suit was substituting for the solid shell. I'll have to test again when the temps are closer to 20F to see how this works for me. If I am still comfortable at that temp with this configuration then I may just go for the Intake Air 5.0 jacket instead since I really don't think I'll be riding nearly as much in colder temps as I did when I was working. When I was riding to work on the bike the morning temps were right at the low for the day, which is when I usually was best able to compete in the coldest ride contest. But being retired I tend to sleep in later and daytime temps are warmer before I get out, and I only really get out when I feel like a ride for fun since there is no more ride to WORK!
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. But being retired I tend to sleep in later and daytime temps are warmer before I get out, and I only really get out when I feel like a ride for fun since there is no more ride to WORK!
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Ok, I'm feeling restless and frustrated with the weather during this time of year for the last few years. The cold I don't mind. Well, warmer would be nicer but I live in central Iowa so it gets cold here this time of year. It used to be that we could get a snow event over one or three days and regardless how much it would be long enough before that happened again the roads would be cleared and dry for several days and I could ride. Lately it seems we get a snow event over one to three days and there would only be one to three days and we get another one, then another 2 days and more snow, then another 3 days and more snow, and... Not really long enough for the roads to clear before we get hammered again. And usually now the temps start to warm up to start melting what is on the streets and more snow dumps on top of the melt turning to ice. Etc, etc.

Well, had significant snow last weekend AND right after the temps dropped to near zeroF. Even the high temps stayed close to zeroF so no melting even with the sunshine. I had to scrape my driveway multiple times just to mostly clear it. And now we expect more snow to fall during all of the next 3 days. So I just decided I needed to get out on the scoot before that happened and will have to see how the roads are as I go.

So I bundled up this morning and took off. My own street still has ice/snow on both sides including about 4 ft off the end of my driveway but the center of the street was just passable for most of the way to the main road. Some sections along the road were looking clear of snow but not so clear of a very thin veneer of ice. But enough grit was poking through that taking it very carefully I could keep going without slipping too much. Good thing my scooter has a VERY low CG making it really easy to keep my balance, but even so the rear wheel did slip/spin just a little in a few places along the ride and once while coming to a stop at a stoplight. Almost all the main/major roads/highways were clear with the lanes on the south side having some slick lines where car tires beat the snow into black ice. I stayed in the center where it was mostly drier. My ride took me two towns west of home for a total short round trip of 31.4 miles. My thermometer at home showed about -2F when I started. In Adel I turned around at a local bank (about the half way point) and headed back. That bank has a time/temp sign so grabbed a photo there. Same as at home: -2F (minus 2 F or almost -19C). I took a slightly longer route coming home just to make sure I stayed on well traveled roads. Some places I had to be careful to pick my lane position to stay in the least slick track. Wasn't too hard really. My own street and the street near the bank at the half way point were the worse of the roads traveled. Photo is of the end of my driveway and street and also the bank sign.

I did get to test a new configuration for my riding gear. 2 years ago I had to replace my riding pants so went with the TM Venture Air 2.0 pant which is mesh and has both wind and thermal liners. I added my Frogg Toggs rain pants over this for an outer solid shell. I've mentioned before I am looking to replace my TM Flex 2 jacket now and am considering something less complicated. So I removed the outer shell and wore it as mesh with the thermal liner installed, and as I usually do at these temps I added the wind/thermal liners from my previous jacket and a fleece jacket under that. Then I added my Frogg Toggs rain jacket over it all as a substitute for the solid shell. This combo worked out great and kept me warm the entire ride. I was also wearing my Turtle Fur neck gator and turned on my Gerbing heated gloves. I was comfortably warm all the way there and back.

At the moment price is directing my decision about what jacket to get. The one I really would like, the TM Pivot, is basically out of production in my size and the one or two places I can still find it want more $$$ than I want to spend. My next choice right now is the Cortech GX Sport Air 4.0. That is currently also the best priced of what I am looking at. My third option would be the TM Intake Air 5.0 jacket. All of these have the wind and thermal liners that can be added inside, one or both as I want. If I need an outer solid shell I have my Frogg Toggs and also another insulated wind breaker that fits loose enough to go over everything. So no loss, effectively, for riding in the cold. And I like the almost full mesh of the last 2 choices (similar to the mesh base of my Flex jacket) for hot weather riding.

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Was mostly sunny and 42F today so I took off on an afternoon ride. Was a very nice 75+ miles today. Roads were clear other than some run off streams running across. Mostly the E-W roads had water across them and the N-S roads were mostly dry. I wore my Flex jacket in mesh mode and also added 2 layers of thermal with the wind liner inside. That was enough for this ride. Filled up with gas just before returning home. I'm still getting 55+mpg even with one ride at below zeroF and this ride.

I did finally order my new jacket Thursday. Ordered using Buy on Google using the $20 off online coupon (which expires after tomorrow). I went to the local Suzuki dealer last week and tried on several jackets to verify size since they did have some of the same brand I wanted, but not the same jacket model. My new Tourmaster Pivot in HI-Viz will be arriving Tuesday.

Saw an interesting sign on my way around. I didn't stop to take a photo but guess I should have. As usual I just like to keep on going without stopping. The sign was on the entrance to a small town cemetery and said:

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Took Dorothy 2.0 on a 100-mile spin along some of my favorite local roads today. It was about 50 degrees, wet from rain yesterday, and windy, but still a fantastic ride. I'm trying to get to that first 1000-mile oil change!
I played around with the different drive modes, I think I prefer 'Tour' but it's just the teeniest bit janky in the gear-shifts when taking corners. I'll eventually do the DCT reset thingy, but that's not supposed to be done until the first 1K miles, I think.
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Sunny skies and low 60's, exceptional weather for these parts. Aired up the tires, topped off the oil and got in a couple hours of stress management. Thought all the Superbowl hoopla would have kept traffic to a minimum but a lot of other folks felt the call. Still a great ride. Life is good.
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Received my new Tourmaster Pivot Touring Jacket in Hi-Viz yesterday. Fit is exactly what I expected, though it is one size letter bigger than my old TM jacket. My old one was XL. My new one is XXL. Yet they feel like they fit the same. Tourmaster did change their sizing charts a few years ago (2017?) so anyone buying a new TM Jacket to replace an older TM jacket should be sure to buy one size bigger (though the actual inch measurements are similar between the old size and new one size bigger). Can't wait until warm and even hot weather returns to try out the new features of extra large mesh panels built into this new jacket. But for now, with those panels closed up and the dual thermal/wind liners installed it is actually a slightly warmer jacket than my old TM Flex 2 jacket.

I know this since I took the scoot on a Dentist appointment this morning for 13 miles round trip. 24F when I left and 26F when I returned. There have been a few warmer days over the weekend at just below or just over 40F, and even one day just over 50F. So all roads are clear and dry. There was snow falling south of home but no chance of it getting up here today per the weather prophets.

I wore the new jacket on my ride and verified this new one is slightly warmer than my old one. Yet with all the mesh I should be fine when the temps approach 100F. Panels on the upper 1/3 of almost the entire front of the jacket unzip and the panels fold down inside the jacket to open very large mesh openings there. Also almost the entire back of the jacket is one big panel that unzips and also folds down into a pocket at the bottom to expose mesh. So not just a vent but almost the entire back is open mesh. There are also vents on the biceps (instead of the shoulders) so air flows up each arm and out the back. The Hi-Viz is not overwhelming but definitely makes the jacket visible both front and back and some on the arms. It's a discontinued item in the Tourmaster lineup but they currently still have some available on their web site. A lot of online stores no longer have it or don't have it in all sizes or colors. I just didn't see anything I liked coming up new to replace it or my old Flex 2, at least with the same features for being essentially all season (hot, mild, cold, wet) and I was not about to spend twice the MSRP of this jacket for anything else that may come close. That's one big way I maintain being financially independent during my retirement years... don't spend much money to get what I need.
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Took Dorothy 2.0 on a 100-mile spin along some of my favorite local roads today. It was about 50 degrees, wet from rain yesterday, and windy, but still a fantastic ride. I'm trying to get to that first 1000-mile oil change!
I played around with the different drive modes, I think I prefer 'Tour' but it's just the teeniest bit janky in the gear-shifts when taking corners. I'll eventually do the DCT reset thingy, but that's not supposed to be done until the first 1K miles, I think.
I did the clutch initialization a couple of times in the first 1,000 miles without a problem. I found the best technique is to perform the procedure on the bike on a level surface with the parking brake engaged. There's no need to put her on the center stand or chock the rear wheel

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Received my new Tourmaster Pivot Touring Jacket in Hi-Viz yesterday.
Mentioned earlier replacing a Joe Rocket Ballistic with a Tourmaster a few months ago. The TM is a lighter weight but actually seems warmer than the JR when the temps drop. Still amazed with the effectiveness of the Hi-Viz.
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