12v accessory plug in right saddlebag

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bob

Discussion Starter · Jun 8, 2014

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I already added a 12v plug under the seat that is always powered. It gets power directly from the battery and is run through a 15 amp inline fuse. I'll be using this one for emergencies and when I need to use my Slime portable compact air pump (which requires 15 amps).
Here's a photo of that one. It's the big thing with the spring cover on the left above all the other cables under the center of the seat.

The factory provided 12v socket cable and connector is the cable just below the one I added. The cable is folded and the connector and cable are well taped. I pulled the tape off and used pins I ordered that fit these connectors. The dummy plug that seals the end of this connector is only missing the pins. I added the pins and ran a wire pair into the right saddlebag through a grommet. The factory cable is run along the right side under the seat and through/around the divider in the opening designed for the factory 12v option and that's the same place I connect the plugs. Here is the factory cable in place.

I used a white zip tie to keep it in place.

I bought my 12v socket at Wally World (both of them) for far less than the factory option. The socket I put in the saddlebag is different than my other one. This one cost me all of $4.97. Add a few $0.20 pins and some wire and solder as well as a few stainless nuts and bolts and it's done. I tried crimping the pins onto the wires but it was not a good physical connection and the wire pulled right out so I soldered them. Much better connection anyway.
Here is the finished 12v socket in the saddlebag. I located it in that little recess in the saddlebag that seems like nothing will ever really fit into anyway. Now I have something useful there.

Not only am I using the factory provided cable for this one but Honda also provided a dedicated 10 amp fuse in the fuse box already! This socket is only powered when the bike is running or on ACC. I'll be using this socket for recharging my cellphone/tablet/BT headset or whatever small device while on the road.

I do want to re-do the front option connector with the pins I ordered that are made for these plugs and add my Gerbing power connection to the ACC connection along with the GPS power feed I already added but that means removing all the panels and top shelter to get at it and I am waiting for the warranty replacement middle cowl to arrive, one that doesn't have a broken tab, so I only take all the panels off one time.

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bob

Discussion Starter · #2 · Jun 8, 2014

Just to pass on additional information on the plug pins...
I ordered mine from the same dealer as Steve ordered his.
Cycle Terminal is the place online. I think the pins for the MT-090 and DL-090 series connectors are the same as are the seals that you should also have (these go over the wire and make the hole where the wire comes out waterproof).
Here is the LINKY for the MT-090 series connectors. Scroll to the bottom to get to the pins (terminals). I ordered at least a half dozen of each, male and female, and also ordered a dozen seals.

To use these terminals/pins I use 18 ga wire (ordered the seals for that size). I first slide the seal onto the wire and push it back away from the end so heat from the soldering iron won't affect it. I then strip and tin the wire end. Then I lay the wire in the terminal and use pliers to crimp the terminal onto the tinned wire part only (inner tabs on terminal) and then solder the connection. I tried simply crimping but without the proper crimp tool for this kind of terminal I couldn't get that to work well. After the solder cools I then crimp the back tabs over the wire insulation. Then, after careful consideration of the service manual electrical diagram and looking at the wire colors into the connector, I snap the terminal into the dummy connector in the proper pin location. Then I slide the seal into the back of the plug and use a small screw driver to press it into the plug so it looks like the factory plug ends.

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bob

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 30, 2014 (Edited)

Last night I found out the MT-090 connector pins I ordered are THE WRONG SIZE for the front option connector. They are the right size for the 12v socket connector, but the wrong size for some other connectors on the bike like the front option connector. After much searching on the Cycle Terminal web site I found the right pins... I hope, and ordered some with new seals for that connector. The .090 pins are too big to fit in the connector and it is a different connector altogether from the 12v accessory option plug under the seat. Just to be clear, the .090 pins DO fit that plug that is under the seat. I found that the connector housing and the pins for the FRONT OPTION CONNECTOR is actually a Sumitomo HX .040 series and you can use this linky to find those pins. The upper section on that page is for the 040 series and only includes extra female pins. I haven't found the male pins yet but don't need them at this time. The bottom section on that page is for the 090 series and those will not fit the Front Option Plug. In fact, what I found is that the 4 pin 040 connector they sell is EXACTLY the same plastic molding as what is on my bike. Same slots, same inner housing, same release tab, everything.

Honda uses many different sizes and models of connectors on any given model of their bikes and I neglected to verify if the same connector was used up front as was used under the seat. Now I have to wait to install my heated gloves power feed, but not big deal since that won't be needed for a few months anyway... I hope.

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csdexter

· #4 · Jun 30, 2014

The Sumitomo HX040 male connectors and pins are available at EasternBeaver: SMHX if you ever need them.

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bob

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jun 30, 2014

good to know. Thanks!

Kookopelli

· #6 · Jul 3, 2014

How will you remove the saddle bag if you wanted to? It looks like the connectors you put on the wires won't go back thru the grommet.

bob

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jul 3, 2014

Kookopelli said:
How will you remove the saddle bag if you wanted to? It looks like the connectors you put on the wires won't go back thru the grommet.

Not a problem really. Don't have to pull those wires out of the saddlebag. The wire pair goes to the factory connector in the void of the right rear cheek under the seat where Honda intended the OEM 12v socket option to go. I simply unplug from there and the short cable stays on the saddle bag. I did also add a zip tie to keep the cable away from the shock body but that wasn't really needed, just insurance.

with the pins I ordered I could use the factory plug/cable placed there by Honda for that option. I used quick disconnects at the 12v socket in case I need to replace the socket.

If I do ever need to replace that short cable from the socket to the plug I can cut off the quick disconnects, replace the cable, and re-add some quick disconnects. Don't plan to have to do that very often if at all (hopefully).

Kookopelli

· #8 · Jul 3, 2014

Well, that makes sense. By the way, I orderd some of the pins based on one of your ealrier posts, so I am sure I need another set because I think I also ordered the MT-090 pins. Bummer.

bob

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jul 3, 2014

The MT-090 pins are the right ones to use for the plug under the seat. The 040 pins are for the front option plug.

I used the MT-090 pins for that 12v socket plug that was under the seat and they fit perfectly. I'll know for sure about the other sized pins when they arrive (any day now) for the front option plug. I just know that the 090 pins are too big to fit that front plug. Good to have both sizes though since Honda used a variety of plug and pin sizes on the bike.

Kookopelli

· #10 · Nov 26, 2014

Where is the Rear Option Connector that shows on the Honda schematic? Can it be used for anything?

richroiz

· #11 · Nov 27, 2014

sweet

bob

Discussion Starter · #12 · Nov 27, 2014

That's the connector I really have wanted to use for rear brake lights but I cannot find it anywhere yet. I haven't had the rear end disassembled much yet and still hope it's back there someplace but it's not where the SM says it should be and I think Honda left it out for our bikes. I would expect that connector would be what is used for a tail light option on the trunk so it would make sense for it to be there somewhere.

ryder4fun

· #13 · Feb 24, 2016

While looking for a ram mount for gps/phone setup I came across this unit on Amazon.com. It seems like it's a direct fitment for that connector under the seat. Any thoughts?

bob

Discussion Starter · #14 · Feb 24, 2016

@ryder4fun. Hard to see from the pictures provided if the connector on the USB pigtail is the same as the power connector under the seat. There are so many variations of ribs and slots inside the connector shell as well as slight variations of the keeper tab on the outer part of that shell. The whole item that you posted includes the module that converts the voltage to the 5vdc required by the USB. I doubt that conversion is only in the pigtail part that has the USB connector so DO NOT CONNECT JUST THAT PART TO THE 12VDC CONNECTOR UNDER THE SEAT or you will fry what ever you plug into it. Use the module/block and connect to the battery as intended for this item and skip the connection under the seat. Also, the one and only review doesn't sound very good on this item so be careful with your decision.

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Hammer51ctx

· #15 · Feb 24, 2016

Has anyone installed a 12v to charge battery that went through the fairing? If so pictures /instructions. The dealer left a pigtail under left side of fairing however, pain in the ass to get too. I would like to extend it through the middle of the left fairing.

bob

Discussion Starter · #16 · Feb 24, 2016

I ran my pigtail into the fork tunnel over the top of the battery and coming out from just under the battery cover panel and just stick the end down in front of the left storage box when not using. I have no need to plug anything in up front since I made all that stuff permanently powered.

bigdaddy2036

· #17 · Jun 4, 2016

@bob, the wiring to the Tomtom400 is very thin. Since the connectors are made for 18-22 ga. wire should I use 18ga wire on the connectors and then connect the TomTom wires to those?

bob

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jun 4, 2016

bigdaddy2036 said:
@bob, the wiring to the Tomtom400 is very thin. Since the connectors are made for 18-22 ga. wire should I use 18ga wire on the connectors and then connect the TomTom wires to those?

GPS units don't use much power. I'd say 18ga is fine, even a little big but that's OK. I don't usually go smaller but could for some of the wiring I've done. Just that I buy a spool of wire so get just one size, or two, and stick with that. It's OK for the wire to be a little bigger than needed, just not OK for smaller wire... unless you want a slow burn smoke generator

bigdaddy2036

· #19 · Jun 4, 2016

bob said:
GPS units don't use much power. I'd say 18ga is fine, even a little big but that's OK. I don't usually go smaller but could for some of the wiring I've done. Just that I buy a spool of wire so get just one size, or two, and stick with that. It's OK for the wire to be a little bigger than needed, just not OK for smaller wire... unless you want a slow burn smoke generator

As usual I got it backwards. Should I use 22ga then and the Tom Tom wire. it shows it is 24AWG since the clips are for 18-22. Also I can't tell by the picture is the front ass. connector 2 pins or 4?

bob

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jun 4, 2016

@bigdaddy2036, if you have 22ga then that should be fine. I doubt the amp draw for the TomTom is very much and if that unit uses smaller wire yet then there should be no problem. The pins on the Front Option plug to use are labeled Aux or ACC and ground on the electrical diagrams. IIRC they are the 2 bottom pins in the connector. That connector is the bottom one in a stack of 2 connectors just to the right of and below the ignition switch under the top shelter. The top connector is for the OEM right heated grip. I don't have the electrical diagram in front of me now to see which pin is which.

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