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which one looks friendlier to cruising...
CTX1300 vs Valkyrie: Ergonomics
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which one looks friendlier to cruising...
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being seated upright when cruising is obviously the much better choice.
but if your going to be going full all out then leaning forward does help, the wind pushing you can be tough
but if your going to be going full all out then leaning forward does help, the wind pushing you can be tough
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I am surprised that there isn't more of a windscreen on the Valkyrie to block you from the wind. It doesn't look very comfortable to be leaning in on the Valkyrie for long distances. So I guess I'd give the win for ergonomics to the CTX1300.
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definitely does make for a more interesting ad, might attract people to it in ways that the photo below it couldn't
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well considering this is ALL there is out there its about as good as its going to get right now.
Regardless of riding position, the absence of a windscreen would make the Valkyrie less comfort. If I had a Valkyrie I would have to buy an aftermarket wind screen. Even the CTX 1300 doesn't have much of a windscreen, though it is better than the Valkyrie.
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I'd bet dollars to donuts that Honda will have some kind of line of accessories for the Valk, and that would have to include at least one windshield. And I'm also sure I read somewhere that among the factory accessories for the CTX1300 will include a taller windshield as well.
Both will have tall windscreens accessories offered by Mother Honda. The valkyrie will also have saddlebags and the ctx will have an optional trunk. I hope it is a quick release setup. Go to the honda website and I think they list all of the accessories.
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If Honda offers taller screens they need to put some effort into the design and testing. The tall Honda shield for the CTX700D is quite possibly the worst thing Honda ever designed. It creates jackhammer air that makes the bike unbearable for anyone over 5'4" or so.
I'll wait for a Cee Bailey or MadStad aftermarket screen.
Due to the popularity of aftermarket screens for the CTX700 bike, I would expect to see good aftermarket screens for the CTX1300 shortly after the bike is released.
I think the CTX1300 looks far more practical than the new Valkyrie. The Valk looks like a big, expensive toy.
I'll wait for a Cee Bailey or MadStad aftermarket screen.
Due to the popularity of aftermarket screens for the CTX700 bike, I would expect to see good aftermarket screens for the CTX1300 shortly after the bike is released.
I think the CTX1300 looks far more practical than the new Valkyrie. The Valk looks like a big, expensive toy.
thats how I feel about the Valkyrie too
Don't get me wrong I think its a nice looking thing. Just not for me.
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if they do mess up the big screens again at least we can depend on some aftermarket company to come up with something for us.
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and offer it for a fraction of the cost. I know for the new FZ09 Yamahas factory screen is $140, while the aftermarket is around $90-100
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The one thing I never liked about the old Valk, every Gold Wing I ever sat on, and quite possibly this new Valk, is the position of the foot pegs. Because of the heads sticking out where they do, your feet are just too much straight under you. And yes, I have ridden a friends Valkyrie for decent distances, and that's one of the things that would keep me from ever owning one. I expect that the V-4 in the CTX affords a little more flexibility in that area, and every pic I've seen seems to suggest a slightly more forward foot position than the Wings or Valks allow. We'll see come spring time.
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On my 2012 Gold Wing, my feet were far enough ahead of my butt that it was difficult to stand up when I jumped the railroad tracks. I think the CTX1300 riding position looks very close to the GL1800 position.
When I put my size into the application at cycle-ergo.com, I get a knee angle of 117 degrees on the CTX and 107 on the Gold Wing. I far prefer the 89 degrees on my Trophy.
I like to stand up to stretch my legs sometimes when I ride long distances. I need to stand up when I hit the really bumpy roads. I can't stand up on the CTX700 and I find that very annoying at times. We've got a couple of railroad crossings in this area that will throw you out of the seat if you don't stand up first.
When I put my size into the application at cycle-ergo.com, I get a knee angle of 117 degrees on the CTX and 107 on the Gold Wing. I far prefer the 89 degrees on my Trophy.
I like to stand up to stretch my legs sometimes when I ride long distances. I need to stand up when I hit the really bumpy roads. I can't stand up on the CTX700 and I find that very annoying at times. We've got a couple of railroad crossings in this area that will throw you out of the seat if you don't stand up first.
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I totally agree on rider position, for me, enabling standing up. Would still be my preference even if I wasn't "missing" one of my two big ligaments in my knee. For some of the same reasons you Gents share. Which is yet another reason I was so very pleased with how Triumph designed the latest T'Bird; at least with my floorboards, anyway...I can stand up easily.
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I don't really get the point of the new Valkyrie anyway. It is basically a stripped-down Wing like the F6B, but they took the "stripping" to an extreme. The instrumentation is SO minimal, with no real creature comforts that I could see. That 1800cc engine wouldn't do me much good around town, and without the other stuff it wouldn't be good for touring, either. I guess I won't be buying of of those!
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It's just kind of the ultimate bare-bones performance cruiser. The old Valkyrie guys loved it for that, and it really was the only bike of its kind. I don't think they're expecting it's going to be a top seller, but there's definitely a small but loud group of riders who have been itching for its return since the first gen was discontinued. And I think you'd be surprised how tame that big flat 6 can be when you don't need to be pulling your arms out of their sockets.
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