[ShadowRider]

The only catch is that it's in Japanese. But some of the photos might be useful, and if anyone knows Japanese and can interpret, that would be awesome! Here's the link:

CTX1300 Owner's Manual (Japanese)

Sure wish I had the English version, as it might be able to answer a lot of the questions I have about the bike. But I have a feeling I might not see it until I have those keys in my hand...

 

[bob]

I already posted a while ago here that many of the after-market parts houses have parts listings for the CTX1300. Prices too, for some of the items. All the items were shown and listed but not all the pricing last I looked. I'm sure there is more pricing available now. I often go to CheapCycleParts.com for OEM parts for my current bikes and will likely do the same for this one. Consistently lower pricing on OEM (but not on 100% of items I am sure) so I save the time searching and just use that site. Learned a lot about the CTX that I was wondering about through these diagrams.

 

[bob]

Found the service manual at www.HelmInc.com
But it's not available yet. There is a link there if you want to be notified when it is available.

 

[ShadowRider]

Found the service manual at www.HelmInc.com
But it's not available yet. There is a link there if you want to be notified when it is available.

Thanks. Yeah, I'm already signed up. I like to have the service manual, mostly for the wiring diagram, since I often add electrical accessories to my bike. The nice thing about the CTX1300 Deluxe is that it already has pretty much everything I want on it. I just need to add the Skene Design lights and I should be all set. I have a garage door opener planned, too, but it has its own battery and is independent of the bike's electrical system.

 

[sleepngbear]

Found the service manual at www.HelmInc.com
But it's not available yet. There is a link there if you want to be notified when it is available.

Now that might be my first accessory purchase. .

 

[csdexter]

The PDF file appears secured, thank goodness there's a pick for every lock

I will have the text extracted and Google-translated to English tonight, will update this thread when I'm done. The quality won't be anywhere near a human translator, but it should help all English speakers understand the point/idea of the text.

 

[Davetac1]

The only catch is that it's in Japanese. But some of the photos might be useful, and if anyone knows Japanese and can interpret, that would be awesome! Here's the link:

CTX1300 Owner's Manual (Japanese)

Sure wish I had the English version, as it might be able to answer a lot of the questions I have about the bike. But I have a feeling I might not see it until I have those keys in my hand...

Now all ya need is a motorcycle to go with the manual. Dave!!!

 

[ShadowRider]

I was able to find out a couple of interesting bits of information by carefully perusing the diagrams--including the answer to a question that has been bugging me.

The cover over the gas cap has no keyhole in it, the way my Gold Wing did. So how do you open the cover?

It seems that there is a keyhole located just below the driver's part of the seat, on the left side. Inserting the bike's key and turning it counterclockwise pops open the gas cap hatch. Inside that is a tethered cap that unscrews (like a car). There is a little holder built into the inside of the hatch cover to hold the gas cap when it is removed--a nice touch.

That keyhole has a second purpose. Turning the key CLOCKWISE unlatches the seat. This is a GREAT feature as far as I'm concerned because I have done a fair amount of electrical work on my Shadow and unbolting the seat to get to the area underneath (where most of my electrical add-ons live) was kind of a pain.

I guess one reason they made it easy to remove the seat is because the hooks to hang a helmet on are located under the seat. I do NOT like this feature. Yes, I know the saddlebags are supposed to be big enough to hold "many full-face helmets". But I have a large head and wear a size 3XL helmet, plus I have a Sena Bluetooth adapter clamped onto the side. There is a pretty good chance that my helmet won't fit in the saddlebag, so I may have to come up with an alternative.

 

[bob]

Saw the keyhole on the side. Have the same on my ST1100 but it's only for unlatching the seat. I like that release for the gas door.
I was thinking that's where the helmet hooks were when I saw a helmet cable as part of the tool kit in the diagrams on the Cheap Cycle Parts web site. I had that same cable with my Burgman 650 with the hooks under the seat. It's for looping through the helmet D ring and the loops on the cable go on the hooks under the seat. My ST1100 also has the hooks under the seat but I never use them (the cable is missing). Instead I have a small cable lock, originally from a tail bag, that I use to secure my helmet to the handle bars, between the top triple tree clamps, and set the helmet on the top shelter. So not a big deal to me about the hooks.

 

[cheeken]

i knew i should have taken japanese 101 in school!



kidding...

 

[SoCalRyder]

i knew i should have taken japanese 101 in school!



kidding...

 

[sleepngbear]

I was able to find out a couple of interesting bits of information by carefully perusing the diagrams--including the answer to a question that has been bugging me.

The cover over the gas cap has no keyhole in it, the way my Gold Wing did. So how do you open the cover?

It seems that there is a keyhole located just below the driver's part of the seat, on the left side. Inserting the bike's key and turning it counterclockwise pops open the gas cap hatch. Inside that is a tethered cap that unscrews (like a car). There is a little holder built into the inside of the hatch cover to hold the gas cap when it is removed--a nice touch.

That keyhole has a second purpose. Turning the key CLOCKWISE unlatches the seat. This is a GREAT feature as far as I'm concerned because I have done a fair amount of electrical work on my Shadow and unbolting the seat to get to the area underneath (where most of my electrical add-ons live) was kind of a pain.

I guess one reason they made it easy to remove the seat is because the hooks to hang a helmet on are located under the seat. I do NOT like this feature. Yes, I know the saddlebags are supposed to be big enough to hold "many full-face helmets". But I have a large head and wear a size 3XL helmet, plus I have a Sena Bluetooth adapter clamped onto the side. There is a pretty good chance that my helmet won't fit in the saddlebag, so I may have to come up with an alternative.

Jeez, helmet lock under the seat?! They stole that from the old Valk, and who knows how many others they used that on that I don't know about. Doesn't matter much to me -- I hardly ever lock my hats up anyway. In fact on the T-bird I couldn't if I wanted to 'cos it doesn't have any helmet lock at all. But as you said, it does make it MUCH easier to get the seat on and off.

 

[csdexter]

I've started work on the translation (read: sloppy reconstruction in English) of the manual. Did ~10 pages, will be able to continue at 10 pages per evening.

Disclaimer: I don't speak or read Japanese, at all. I'm using Bing/Google Translate, I'm adding in obvious cues as to the meaning of the phrase from surrounding context and I'm trying to arrive at the most readable English rendition. If any of you can actually read Japanese, I'm happy to stand down and let the pros do the work

If you want a certain section/page of the manual done before others, let me know. If you think this is useless, let me know. Thanks.

The ongoing document is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w-5KGH9a2miG5Lj5wwNiv1SdVxhv0hUtQmux3fjKPT8

 

[bob]

I think the official English manual will be out before you are done. On the Helm Inc web site, from where the manuals are usually sold, some of the new model manuals, like for the CB1100, have a note that they will be available on March 14. I think that is close to when the CTX manual will be available.

 

[csdexter]

The Helm site only shows the service manual for the CTX1300 as "to be announced" with no tentative date, while the owner's manual doesn't show up anywhere.

I got all the information I needed myself from the Japanese manual (mainly that there is NO radio, that the USB interface DOES know how to read a mass storage device and decode MP3, WMA and AAC, that it DOES have speed-adaptive volume and the recommended shift points). I thought I'd help the community if I translate some bits that other people may want to know about as soon as possible.

 

[bob]

Thank you.
I didn't think it had a radio since there was never any mention of it, only that it was a stereo BT system. I was intending to use a flash drive anyway since my mp3 player won't play when plugged in to the USB (charge only). Good to have confirmation that it will do that. I guess they want to leave it open to any device the rider might prefer and not lock you in to some proprietary system. That way as tech changes you can just plug in new tech devices and keep on riding.

 

[sleepngbear]

Thank you.
I didn't think it had a radio since there was never any mention of it, only that it was a stereo BT system. I was intending to use a flash drive anyway since my mp3 player won't play when plugged in to the USB (charge only). Good to have confirmation that it will do that. I guess they want to leave it open to any device the rider might prefer and not lock you in to some proprietary system. That way as tech changes you can just plug in new tech devices and keep on riding.

Hmmmmmmm -- I forgot about the flash drive option. I was thinking blue tooth, which would mean fiddling with another device. Flash drive means I can basically just leave it plugged in except for when I want to add tunes. Now ya gots me thinking more and more seriously about the Deluxe.

 

[bob]

Did you say in a post somewhere here that you have a Sena BT headset?
Since the Deluxe has stereo BT already all you need is the flash drive/USB stick to play your tunes on the Sena or any other BT headset.

 

[ShadowRider]

Thank you.
I didn't think it had a radio since there was never any mention of it, only that it was a stereo BT system. I was intending to use a flash drive anyway since my mp3 player won't play when plugged in to the USB (charge only). Good to have confirmation that it will do that. I guess they want to leave it open to any device the rider might prefer and not lock you in to some proprietary system. That way as tech changes you can just plug in new tech devices and keep on riding.

If you need a radio and are getting a Deluxe, then perhaps you should look at the iPod Nano. I have one that I take to the gym with me. Not only is it a very nice and very compact MP3 player with a touch screen, but it also includes an FM radio and interfaces wirelessly via Bluetooth. It would also be able to display the name of the track on the LCD display on the bike, and you should be able to use the control buttons to change tracks easily. It would fit perfectly in the right fairing compartment. I'll use my iPhone, though, as I want the GPS capabilities, etc. I'm planning to get a short USB cable to take up as little room as possible in that compartment:

AmazonBasics USB A to Lightning Compatible Cable - Apple Certified - White (4 Inches/10 Centimeters

 

[bob]

I find that I don't really use the radio much when traveling since I can only stay in range for 1/2 to an hour. So I simply rely on my own tunes. The mp3 player I have does have a radio and if I really want to use that function I plug it in directly to my headset now and will likely continue to do that.