[ksmillertx]

CTX1300 | Honda

Chrome can translate it for you. There are some good different bike shots, and PICS OF THE ACCESSORIES! Just select the accessories tab.

 

[cheeken]

thanks for sharing!

 

[bob]

And welcome to the board!

 

[bob]

Thanks for the links and photos all. As long as I can still look over the windscreen I might consider it but if the top edge is AT my line of sight then no way.
Not really getting into the trunk. May end up still going with the Bestem 929... for the price ($110 delivered with bracket and lights incl. on bestemusa.com).

 

[DonaldD]

Accessories look great here.

Its also good to see the Japanese site in translation. Will there be things different about the Japanese CTX1300 from the NA version of the CTX1300?

 

[sleepngbear]

Thanks, and welcome to the board!

Interesting that only black and white are available colors in Japan.

I am definitely liking that backrest/rack.

 

[Bigdawg]

Thanks for posting these. Good find! I'm loving the color matched trunk and the backrest with luggage rack. I can't tell if I like the windscreen. I'll need to see more pictures.

 

[bob]

Looking at the pricing on the Japan web site and using the Google currency converter online it looks like the pricing on the wind shield would be about $185 over here... if they keep the pricing consistent.

 

[SoCalRyder]

Thanks for posting this. Glad to see Japan has their page live and running. Got to love that back rest piece, anyone know what it might sell for in the U.S?

 

[bob]

Thanks for posting this. Glad to see Japan has their page live and running. Got to love that back rest piece, anyone know what it might sell for in the U.S?

At the main link to the Japan CTX1300 page click on the last button in the bar across from where it says CTX. That's the accessories page. Click on a picture of the accessory and you will see where it shows how many Yen for that item. I use Google currency converter to put that number in for Yen and get the result for US Dollar.

Backrest sells for about $205 in Japan. The rear rack that the backrest mounts to is shown separately and is about $154. Don't know if there could be a bundled price over here, or if there is a mount for the backrest without the rack.

 

[Bigdawg]

Can anyone figure out the torque and horsepower numbers from the window that pulls up if you click on the 2nd to the last button across from where it says ctx?

 

[bob]

Can anyone figure out the torque and horsepower numbers from the window that pulls up if you click on the 2nd to the last button across from where it says ctx?

Good catch on that page. Google search for translators and converters to the rescue again.
Looking down the page for the item labeled （kW[PS]/rpm） indicates the metric measures for HP at an rpm. PS usually is directly translated to HP so horse power is indicated at 84 HP at 6000 rpm (not BHP though which would be a little bit less I think).
The item labeled （N・m[kgf・m]/rpm） indicates metric force numbers, or torque. None of these are direct equivalents as in HP so a metric conversion calculator was used to come up with 78.18 foot-pounds torque at 4500 rpm.

So there you have it.
The CTX1300 has:
84 hp @ 6000 rpm
78.18 lb-ft torque @ 4500 rpm.
better than I was thinking it would be.

But we're not done yet!
There are mpg numbers here too... after a translation.
There are 2 numbers indicated for this and 2 methods of measure. One of these is similar to how officially derived emissions testing is used in the U.S. to calculate mpg. This is called WMTC in Japan. The other method sounds like they take it out with rider and passenger at 60km/h for larger than 50cc bikes and actually measure mpg.
I found this web link describes these 2 methods
So running the numbers through a converter/calculator online gives us the following:
Standard test mpg: 63.97 mpg at 37.3 mph (Japan's standard test speed)
WMTC calculated average mpg: 43.5 mpg
again better than I was thinking it would be

Keep in mind this same engine without the modifications in the ST1300 is:
117 hp @8000 rpm
86 lb-ft torque @6500 rpm
currently rated at 35 mpg average using the EPA emissions calculated method.

 

[bob]

Just looked up my ST1100 for hp and torque and this is what I found.
100 hp @8500 rpm
79 lb-ft @6000 rpm

So torque is almost the same but at a higher rpm compared to the CTX1300.
I would expect the CTX1300 to pull my camper better than my ST1100.

 

[Bigdawg]

Thanks bob for all your work. However, I got to say I'm very disappointed. I need more power to keep me interested. This is likely a deal breaker for me. Why would Honda do this to that beautiful motor? I would have to double check, but those numbers sound worse than the 2014 Harleys! Man that bums me out! I'll probably keep what I have or wait and see how the accessories turn out on the Valkyrie.

 

[sleepngbear]

Thanks bob for all your work. However, I got to say I'm very disappointed. I need more power to keep me interested. This is likely a deal breaker for me. Why would Honda do this to that beautiful motor? I would have to double check, but those numbers sound worse than the 2014 Harleys! Man that bums me out! I'll probably keep what I have or wait and see how the accessories turn out on the Valkyrie.

Those look like the same numbers that were quoted in another article, which a few people called into question. I can see the HP being down (though not by THAT much), but the motor was supposed to have been retuned for more torque than the ST variant, and this number is clearly less. So I wouldn't take those numbers to the bank just yet.

 

[bob]

Keep in mind that this may be more torque at that rpm than the ST. After all, Honda did say more torque in the low-mid range and the ST doesn't hit its peak until higher ranges, even if it is more torque at that higher rpm than the CTX. Will have to look and compare torque curves.

 

[Davetac1]

Good work Bob!!! Thank you for your efforts! Dave!!!

 

[bob]

OK.
on the ST-Owners site one of the ST1300 riders ran his bike on a Dyno to get this result. Other charts I've found are similar. Keep in mind what rpm you would likely be running at in normal riding. Looks like hp is slightly higher at just over 90 @6000 rpm on the ST, and torque is lower at 70 lb-ft @4500 rpm on the ST. So the detune of the engine for more torque at lower rpm was achieved but at a loss of hp as well as a loss of peak hp overall. Don't know if the figure I gave above is peak for the CTX or not. We can assume it is, but...
To be honest, I've never had my ST1100 as high as 8500 rpm (where the torque peak is). I run much lower rpm for each gear but probably should run it higher. It seems to burn more gas at higher rpm though so I don't. Too used to the GW gearing I guess.

 

[annubissl]

yep yep converters give 82. 8 Hp at 6k RPM and 78.1 lb/ft of Torque at 4.5K RPM. seriously unimpressive torque figures. the HP i can live with. Hope those torque numbers will be higher upon release. Wonder what kind of figures we'll get with some after market pipes, a fuel controler and K&N air filter.

 

[sleepngbear]

yep yep converters give 82. 8 Hp at 6k RPM and 78.1 lb/ft of Torque at 4.5K RPM. seriously unimpressive torque figures. the HP i can live with. Hope those torque numbers will be higher upon release. Wonder what kind of figures we'll get with some after market pipes, a fuel controler and K&N air filter.

and twin turbochargers.