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I just picked up my red deluxe two days ago and LOVING it!

However, I'm 5'6" (on a good day) and inseam challenged at 29" and I can just barely get my toes to the ground with boots with thick heels.

Any recommendations to make my legs longer or the bike shorter? I can have my soles built up, but then I can't fit foot in to shift, and it's too much of a hassle to fly to Asia to have my stumps lengthened :eek:

Has anyone seen a seat that's at least 1" lower? I haven't been able to find any online.

Thanks!
 

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I have not yet seen anything specific for this bike, but try giving these guys a call: Mean City Cycles - Custom Seat Modifications. They've modded three seats for me on different bikes, and I can't say enough about them and their customer service. Besides replacing the foam, they will re-shape it to fit you personally. That includes lowering (or raising) the seating position, and narrowing the sides of the saddle where your legs go down, which effectively shortens the distance to the ground. The only problem is that you have to send them your seat, because they manufacture seat pans. If you can do without your seat for a few weeks, they do great work. I'm sure they haven't done one of these bikes yet, but it can't hurt to give them a call to see if they'd want to take it on.
 

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BuddhaBiker,

I am not that much taller at 5'7", but what I find that works for me is that if I slide a bit forward on the seat I get the best reach to the ground.

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Thanks sleepngbear!

I'll keep them in mind if I can't find a simpler and cheaper solution. I'm going to try putting 1" heel lifts inside my boots. If that doesn't work well enough, I know a guy that can add thickness to the soles.
 

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Thanks Tony,

Good idea...but I'm already at the very front of the seat at a stop. I slide back once I'm underway, and then slide forward when I know I need to make a stop. I'll probably wear out my seat sooner, but it's worth it, the bike is a blast to ride!
 

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I'm inseamed challenged like you.

About the same height 5' 6-7" with a shorter inseam. I say 27" according to the pants I order, wife says 26".

The CTX isn't too bad so besides sliding forward at stops try sliding your butt off to one side at stops so one foot is flat on the ground and the other is helping your balance with the ball of the foot or toes touching.

Good thing the bike has a low center of gravity so that helps us short guys, too.

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I can also voucn for Mean City Cycles. If you call them you can ask if they have done a CTX seat yet. If not, they are still very knowlegable and can help you.

I am also short at 5-8 and had a lot of trouble moving the thing around from a parking spot, etc. I finally took my seat to a local guy who took about 1/2" of padding out of the top and trimmed the sides right down almost to the plastic. There is a lot of padding in those side pieces that don't do anything in my opinion except make you more bow-legged at a stop. Now I can reach the ground a lot better. Almost any upholstery shop in your area should be able to handle it.
 

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Here we go - another project and more $$$

So, I have been thinking about this issue as well. I used to be 5'9.5". But now, after two major low back surgeries and cervical problems as well, I'm now probably something like 5'8"-5'8.5". Luckily, my inseams stayed the same at 30".

I don't have a real problem. If I'm forward on the seat my heels are just a hair off the ground. The only time this becomes an issue is when I get a little to far off vertical when I'm in the garage or parking or something like that. It would be nice to have a little more leverage in those circumstances.

I started thinking about options mainly because my wife has been complaining that her butt bones get sore after only 40 miles or so. I also want to get one of the Utopia driver backrests and I want to make sure I've analyzed the whole setup properly and that I get it right the first time.

I've taken a look at the Saddleman gel pads online and I actually saw one in person at my dealer yesterday. Those gel pads are only about an inch thick. They are expensive and I wouldn't want add-on pads anyway., but the gel idea is interesting. I think having a professional cut, replace, or reshape the foam is the way to go.

I'm wondering whether you get more comfort bang for the buck out of gel material thickness than you do out of whatever type of foam is used in the stock seat. The stock seat feels something like memory foam to me. So, it would make sense to replace the foam if you can lower the seat height by an inch and keep the same level of comfort. At the same time, more padding could be added for the passenger.

As Kook mentions, narrowing the seat by removing foam at the sides would basically make your legs longer. I thought of this too, but I'm wondering if it would be easier to burn your legs on the exhaust that way.
 

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Guys - I've been corresponding back and forth with Allen at Mean City Cycles. He has never done a CTX1300 seat so, without a seat in hand, he has no idea how he can improve upon the stock seat.

Interestingly, he installs the Utopia backrest and he recommends it as the best on the market. He only charges $25 to install it over the $225 price to purchase the backrest. This has me thinking that I don't mind being the ginea pig on the seat mods since I want the Utopia anyway. My main extra cost will be shipping.

If I send him my seat for the Utopia install, he can then determine what other mods can be done. I would just get it ready and send it today, but if you've read my post in the "jerky throttle" thread, you'll know my dealer will be installing new throttle cables for me since I screwed them up. I'm not sure about all the timing of these two jobs. Obviously, I need my seat to drive to the dealer for the throttle cable job. I'll keep you all posted.
 

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I just picked up my red deluxe two days ago and LOVING it!

However, I'm 5'6" (on a good day) and inseam challenged at 29" and I can just barely get my toes to the ground with boots with thick heels.

Any recommendations to make my legs longer or the bike shorter? I can have my soles built up, but then I can't fit foot in to shift, and it's too much of a hassle to fly to Asia to have my stumps lengthened :eek:

Has anyone seen a seat that's at least 1" lower? I haven't been able to find any online.

Thanks!
Bummer... sounds like our going to be doomed to a life of seat mods. Find a good custom place and please let us know....
- a fellow 29'r
 

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@TomP, I would be sure to have/send him some photos of you sitting on the seat the same way you would be riding on it. Most seat modification shops I've known want a photo to help them with knowing what to change and how.
 

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I just picked up my red deluxe two days ago and LOVING it!

However, I'm 5'6" (on a good day) and inseam challenged at 29" and I can just barely get my toes to the ground with boots with thick heels.

Any recommendations to make my legs longer or the bike shorter? I can have my soles built up, but then I can't fit foot in to shift, and it's too much of a hassle to fly to Asia to have my stumps lengthened :eek:

Has anyone seen a seat that's at least 1" lower? I haven't been able to find any online.

Thanks!
I am like you 5'6" I found on ebay from a VTX 1300 the rear shocks,like $125.00 I cut two turns of each coil and make the top flat,also I drop the front .75 inches from the tripple tree.No problems with ground clearence for me and yeah I can flat my boots on the ground
 

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OK - to avoid confusion please note that I am copying and pasting this post in both the "inseam challenged" thread and also the "jerky throttle" thread. First to Bob - pics are an excellent idea to send to Allen. I'll do one of how I ride and one of how I move forward when I'm stopped; also one from behind. Here goes the update for both threads:

I have an update about my cable replacement. The dealer that gave me the $78 labor estimate is in Homosassa (Love Motorsports). They are my closest dealer.

I knew that $78 couldn't be correct so I decided to call the Champion Honda dealer in Orlando just to see what they said. They told me 4 hours @ $98 per plus about $60 for the cables.

I've been studying my service manual and I think I could probably do it myself but I don't need that stress and I also don't know how to terminate the cables if they come longer than necessary (i.e. adding ferrules or crimping cables, etc.) - safety first = peace of mind.

After that I decided to call the dealer in Homosassa to tell them I thought they were making a mistake. They appreciated my honesty and, in the end, they gave me a FIRM quote of $276 including parts and labor. I think this is very fair and hopefully I'll have a throttle I can trust - safety first.

So, the cables will be here in another day or two and they promised to fit me in pronto. After that is done, I'm going to send my seat up to Allen at Mean City Cycles (see the "inseam challenged" thread). He'll install the Utopia backrest for me for $25 and when he has my seat in hand, he'll also be able to determine what other mods are possible for us inseam challenged riders.
 

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Seat update: My seat is sheduled for surgery on My 20th at Mean City Cycles. It will be interesting to see what they can and cannot do. Also, the idea of lowering the bike has come across my radar a few times recently. Juan posted earlier here that he has successfully lowered his bike by about .75". I was at my local dealer yesterday and I was telling a salesman that I was having the seat modified to get my feet more on the ground. He said "why don't you just lower it?". I told him there is less clearance under the rear fender sides than appears at first glance. He took a close look at the one they have it stock and he thinks an inch could easily be had by using shorter shocks and the front fork would be no problem to lower. What do you guys think about the idea of lowering the bike (ignoring the warranty issue)?

And, here is a cheap helper. I found some insoles on ebay for my shoes that provide about a .5" lift - quite helpful and comfortable.
 

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Tom,

You can easily lower the front end about 3/4" by loosening the clamp bolts on the triple trees and letting the shocks stick up 3/4" more than they do stock. That will help you a little until you can get shorter rear shocks, if that is what you would like to do. I have a set of Stock VTX shocks that you can chop up if you want to try that. People used to chop the spring on them all the time. You can go to the VTXCafe.com and search for shortening shocks or something like that and you will probably find a dozen people telling you how to do it with pics and vids, no less. Let me know if you want my shocks. They are in great shape. If you find you like the shorter shocks you can get some new ones from Progressive that are much better shocks and you can get whatever length you want. An inch shorter shocks will make you almost an inch closer to the ground since you sit promaril over the rear shocks. If you lower the front end also, you will get a full inch or more. Of course, if you are an aggressive rider, you will be scraping the footpegs all the time. Progressive makes shocks in 1/2" increments, so think hard about the stopped ride height advantage vs. the rideability with the lowered suspension. For sure, wait until you get your new seat before you try any of this.
 

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I am only 5'4" tall on a good day with a 27 inch in seam. I had the stock seat trimmed down about an inch and a half and now wear a heavy duty type biker boot with a heel just under two inches . I am nearly flat footed on the bike and i have no trouble shifting gears. Confidence level the bike is sooooo much better. Rode almost a 1000 kms last week.
 

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Tom,

You can easily lower the front end about 3/4" by loosening the clamp bolts on the triple trees and letting the shocks stick up 3/4" more than they do stock. That will help you a little until you can get shorter rear shocks, if that is what you would like to do. I have a set of Stock VTX shocks that you can chop up if you want to try that. People used to chop the spring on them all the time. You can go to the VTXCafe.com and search for shortening shocks or something like that and you will probably find a dozen people telling you how to do it with pics and vids, no less. Let me know if you want my shocks. They are in great shape. If you find you like the shorter shocks you can get some new ones from Progressive that are much better shocks and you can get whatever length you want. An inch shorter shocks will make you almost an inch closer to the ground since you sit promaril over the rear shocks. If you lower the front end also, you will get a full inch or more. Of course, if you are an aggressive rider, you will be scraping the footpegs all the time. Progressive makes shocks in 1/2" increments, so think hard about the stopped ride height advantage vs. the rideability with the lowered suspension. For sure, wait until you get your new seat before you try any of this.
Hey Kook - thank you for the very generous offer re the VTX shocks. I'll do some research to see if I'm up to the task and let you know. I've never replaced shocks on anything myself. If you read my post on my centerstand installation you'll see that I don't get along well with heavy springs under tension. Question - does the center stand support the frame and swingarm enough or is some sort of hoist required to change out the rear shocks? Of course, I'll wait for the seat to see how that goes.

I guess I am not an aggressive driver because I've never scraped with this bike although there have been many times that I was surprised that I didn't. An eon ago, however, I owned a big Harley that scraped frequently. I can say definitively that this is not a feature I find desirable in a bike. I'm well beyond the stage where I need to brag about scraping around every turn. It looks to me, however, like I'd be ok with the ctx lowered an inch. I'll have to really think about the trade-off. Oops, gotta go; my wife is waiting for me impatiently.

Later
 
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