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I made the commitment with my dealer this morning to trade my CTX700D for a CTX1300 Deluxe.

This will be my primary transportation and the unreliable Trophy will be demoted to second duty.

The first order of business once I get the new Honda will be to sort out the windshield. I would expect Cee Bailey to have a model available shortly after the bike is released. In a perfect world, I'll be able to get a Windbender for the CTX1300.
 

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If the Trophy had not turned out to be such a disappointment, I probably would not be spending money on another bike. The Trophy is great when it chooses to run, but it is a very high-maintenance bike.

The reason I'm trading the 700 instead of the Trophy is because I'd rather deal with the local shop instead of the dealer I got the Trophy from in the big city. The local guy won't be able to take the Trophy on trade. The local guy has three Japanese brands. The big city guy has all four Japanese brands plus some of the European brands.

I figure I'll be riding the CTX1300 15 to 20 thousand miles per year and the Trophy 5 to 10 thousand. The Trophy will still be very nice for hitting the mountain roads. The CTX1300 will be excellent for all of my other riding.

The little CTX has exceeded my expectations. I bought it for commuting and hitting the local roads. Early on I thought I might be able to make a tourer out of it. The first 500 mile day broke me of that notion and I bought the Trophy for the longer rides.

The little CTX is very practical and very economical. The wind protection on it is not great for long trips and the fuel tank is too small. I really enjoy the DCT when I'm commuting, but it's not so great on slick surfaces or riding aggressively in the twisties. The lack of a centerstand on the little CTX is annoying when I do chain maintenance.

The little CTX and the Trophy both make good second bikes. I'm expecting the big CTX to be a better primary bike.
 
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Awesome. Unless somebody steals one off the boat, I believe that would make you #1 owner. Around here. So far. ;)

Congrats!!
 

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Mine is a red deluxe scheduled to arrive at the dealership March 10th. My dealer will still allow me to backout if I change my mind. Still waiting for reviews, pictures of accessories, horsepower and torque numbers.
 

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Just emailed my local stealer -- they've got some on order and are expecting them around the end of March/early April. Which is fine, because I don't usually do a whole lot of riding before then anyway. And he'll take my Triumph on trade. They've been pretty good in the past on trade-in values, although I've only traded Hondas before now. First decent day I'll take a ride down there and talk numbers; if they have my model and color coming in, I might have to leave a deposit.
 

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If ya don't mind me askin Ed,was the dealers trade-in offer in line with book value or did he offer you less.I'm not askin what he gave you,I'm just curious if his dollar value was in the ball park?? If you look in both KBB and NADA,you'll note that the Tbird holds a pretty fair trade in value as well as a decent retail.Thanks Ed!! Dave!!!
 

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If ya don't mind me askin Ed,was the dealers trade-in offer in line with book value or did he offer you less.I'm not askin what he gave you,I'm just curious if his dollar value was in the ball park?? If you look in both KBB and NADA,you'll note that the Tbird holds a pretty fair trade in value as well as a decent retail.Thanks Ed!! Dave!!!
As I recall, they were pretty close to NADA trade-in value. Of course, I imagine it helps that I've bought most of my bikes there and had them serviced there as well.
 

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In a way I envy you guys who can commit to purchase already (before availability... sight unseen in person). But I must wait to actually ride one before I can commit to one myself. I also have to convince my CFO (wife) that it would be wise to replace my aging ST1100 with a new bike that will last many years. Hard to do when she knows Honda bikes, including the ST1100 I have, are generally very reliable and last a long time. I take the approach that retirement looms and I want to have my new long lasting bike in the stable before that so we don't face the expense of replacing after. :) Yeah, we'll see if that works. :)
 

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I've bought all of my new bikes without a test ride. I don't like to buy a "new" vehicle with a bunch of miles already on it from other test riders, so I don't like to put miles on a bike someone else will buy.

I had never seen a CTX700 before I ordered that bike. It turned out pretty well. It's hard to go wrong with a Honda. I placed my original order for the Trophy without ever seeing one. That dealer closed up and by the time I got a Trophy, I'd already set on one. That bike didn't turn out to be very reliable. A test ride would not have shown the problems with the Trophy.

In my household I currently hold CEO, CFO, and CIO titles. :) I don't have to ask permission unless I will have to borrow money. That's one of the main reasons I'm getting a CTX1300 instead of a Gold Wing.
 

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My only concern with buying sight unseen is if the bike fits me and if it performs as I want it to. All indications point to the CTX1300 fulfilling expectations. As you said "It's hard to go wrong with a Honda." But I still need to sit on one to know for sure. I defer to my wife as CFO to keep the peace and I love her so it stands to reason to have her approval on things like this. For me anyway. I handle all the money matters for tracking and knowing what it is and where it goes or comes from. But she does have a lot of wisdom on what is a good value.
 

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You and me both Bob.Despite Honda's claims,I still wanna see it,sit on it,listen to it,and drive it "BEFORE" I lay any money down for it.And if I can't do that,then Honda,or anyone else for that matter, can keep their product.Me DUMB Polock,me no STUPID Polock!! Dave!!!
 

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Other questions I have before I'll buy anything:D Do I need it??How reliable is it? Can I work on it? What's the availability of parts for it? How expensive are these parts? What accessories are available for it? What are the good/bad points about it?? These all come into play when ya buy anything.And if I find negative answers to these questions,I WON'T BUY IT.PERIOD!! It's as simple as that! Remember the Guzzi I mentioned?? Well once I heard about the piss pot poor fuel economy,never mind it wouldn't run worth a dam between 1000 and 2500 rpm,that was the end of that no matter how much I may have liked it or what kind of a deal the stealer may have offered me. My ole man always told me "THINK before ya do anything" and he was right. ;)Dave!!!
 

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Well Dave, don't forget to check out my thread in the engine and technical discussion section for "There be parts online!"
I include links there for the service manual and a few parts sources that already list parts for the CTX1300. Pricing is being filled in as they get that info from Honda. Parts are available for this bike and the documentation you need to service it yourself.
 

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Yup! I saw that Bob.But I did find another web site that has shop manuals for EVERYTHING.I just bought a set of Chiltons SM's for the wife's 2010 Jeep which I bought brandy new and could NOT find til now.Oh ya!!And before I forget,thanks for the info Bob!! Dave!!!
 

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Yup! I saw that Bob.But I did find another web site that has shop manuals for EVERYTHING.I just bought a set of Chiltons SM's for the wife's 2010 Jeep which I bought brandy new and could NOT find til now.Oh ya!!And before I forget,thanks for the info Bob!! Dave!!!
likely you have to pay for it, shouldn't be much of a problem though.
do you have a link to the website?
 

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I just filled out a credit app and emailed my dealer about it, so they know what I'll be looking for. The tough part will convincing my other half to let me buy it. I'll bet you guys have never had to do THAT before, right? ;)

Don't know if I will trade in my 2006 Shadow Sabre yet, as I have a friend who may want to buy it and I should probably hang onto it for him.
 

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likely you have to pay for it, shouldn't be much of a problem though.
do you have a link to the website?
The name of the site I use is: "www.Auto Repair Manuals.Biz"

That will bring you to "Best Brands Repair Manuals". Then follow the instructions, which is what I did to get the Manual to cover the Wife's 2010 Jeep,and other Chyrsler products from 2008-2012.

Now if you remember a few years back,the vehicle manufacturers,in their infinite wisdom,attempted to corner the repair market,[and were successfull] hoarding any and all repair information and or specifications, releasing it to their dealers,only.

Then in one of the more recent elections, a "RIGHT TO REPAIR" question was placed on the ballot and passed.Well,untill recently,there was still nothing available, other then "ALL DATA" ,which is an on line site that you have to pay for [100-200+ dollars a MONTH],making it too expensive for the independent and or small repair shops,fleet operations,and retired guys such as myself.And I'll bet my bottom dollar that the vehicle manufacturers own the All Data website.

But recently,Chilton's,Mitchel's ,Clymer's,Motor's and Hayne's,[I believe Motor's is now owned by Mitchel's] all of which I'm familiar with,and who WERE printing these manuals for many years, are NOW printing em again,while making em available on line and or at select Auto Parts Stores. Dave!!!
 
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