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Since I'm getting things off my chest about the bike, here are some other complaints I have found so far. I certainly don't want to discourage other buyers, and some of these might not be issues for anyone but me, but one of the reasons we have these forums is to discuss things we find about the bike, good and bad. So here' my list…in addition to the MAJOR gripe about the windshield, discussed elsewhere.

The grips are too small to be comfortable for my hands. I'm actually getting callouses on my hands from the grips, even when wearing heavy gloves! I replaced the Shadow's grips with Kuryakyn ISO grips, and may do the same thing on the 1300, especially now that they have these cool black ones. I'm purposely trying to keep things more black than chrome on this bike, so this would be a good match. The only problem is that it would mean I couldn't get heated grips, but heated gloves or liners might work just as well.

The paint finish scuffs extremely easily and looks bad. Perhaps this is more of an issue with the black bike, as it is probably not going to be as noticeable on the other colors. But the bottom part of the fake tank is already badly scuffed just from my jeans rubbing against it, and I can't get rid of these with wax--I'm probably going to have to use plastic polish. I'm even considering getting one of those tank protectors like they use on racing bikes, though I'm not crazy about how they look. There are numerous scuffed areas all over the top surface of the bike; it seems to scuff if you touch it with ANYTHING. I am careful to use only microfiber cloths and the Honda spray cleaner on the bike, and some Meguiar's motorcycle wax. Keeping this bike looking good is going to take a LOT more effort than the Shadow did!

The fairing pockets are mostly useless. Big surprise, right? The left one can hold a mini garage door remote, but you wouldn't want to leave it in there anyway. I have a tin of Altoids, as I don't care if those get stolen. The right pocket has a section that goes down a few inches, but I have to position my phone at PRECISELY the right spot to make it work, and then it is hard to close the pocket lid if the phone is plugged into the USB cable. At this point I'm considering a RAM mount for the phone so I can use it more easily for navigation.

The cover over the battery is tricky to remove and almost impossible to replace; nothing lines up again once it has been taken off. This one is driving me crazy! The plastic tabs that are supposed to snap back into the fairing don't seem to work at all, at least for the two bottom ones. There is a good 1/4" gap, and the cover actually sticks up. I have tried multiple times to fix this but it just keeps happening. It looks terrible and is very frustrating. I'm trying to show off the bike to other people but this keeps me from doing that. It's possible that the bottom-most tab is damaged somewhat; does that mean I will have to order a replacement part every time I need to access the battery compartment?

The parts are put together with plastic retaining "rivets". Maybe this is common on bikes with a lot of plastic. I admit it does make it easier to get the parts off without a screwdriver, but those retainers are very easy to lose. I have lost one already (on the right side "inner panel", as it is called in the service manual) and the auto parts stores don't seem to stock any replacements in the same size. I may have to order a half-dozen or so of these just in case for future needs.

The side stand is in a weird place, is hard to engage, and it makes the bike lean too far to the left. In particular I was trying to clean the left chrome pipes and they were so close to the floor that I could not get to them. I finally put a thick phone book under the stand to get the bike upright enough to clean it. That side stand seems to be REALLY far back; I always have a hard time finding it and catching it with my boot heel. Maybe this will just take practice.

So that's my list so far. All picky things, I suppose, but they all detract from enjoyment of the bike. Perhaps I'm a bit too concerned with the appearance of the bike, but I have always kept mine clean and polished, as they are a prized possession and I am proud of them.

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Show Chrome has heated grips that should fit this bike. They're not like the Kurt Iso's, and in fact in pictures they don't look a whole lot bigger around than the stock grips. But they are an option, and there are probably a few other options as well.

The battery cover thing is definitely a concern. Hopefully a dealer can help you out. I mean, they had to remove and replace it at least once already to connect the battery.
 

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You can get plastic pop-rivets here: Tabs (if eBay doesn't help and you don't like Honda's price)

Grip size is a matter of personal preference. I rode bikes with both thick and thin and I prefer thin, but everybody has different size hands :)

Plastic is a different animal when it comes to paint than metals, I learned that the hard way when restoring pinball machines. Use only stuff meant for plastic on plastic (including the rag/cloth).

The fairing pockets are called "pockets" (and not glove boxes or storage compartments) for good reason :) The left one sounds ideal for my NFC card (opens gates and barriers both at home and at work) while the right one appears to be just right for my phone or USB HDD. If you look around, you can find right-angled USB cables so that you don't have to put stress on the connector when closing the lid over your phone.
Also, I would never leave anything valuable inside my bike so I don't mind the pockets don't lock -- I don't know about the insurance market in the US but here they only insure the bike, not the contents of pockets or side bags :)

Just my 2 cents.
 
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I would likely use the left pocket for my side stand puck and helmet cable lock (it's small enough to fit I think) and not much else. Same as I currently put in my ST left pocket (unlocked- basically a rubber flap to close). I use a basic phone (can't stand the cost of smartphone data plans) so music and connecting to USB to play anything is a not-happening kind of thing. I have a very small mp3 player but would still likely use a USB thumb drive anyway and BT to my helmet headset. My basic phone is already BT to my helmet and doesn't need the bike for that.

BTW- plastic rivets are increasing in use for modern bikes with plastic. My Burgman had them all over. I learned to be very careful not to push in the center pin very far and it will work much better. I did buy extras from the dealer for that bike. My ST also has a few but being older (98) it has some really weird ones that unscrew to remove and just push to install. I've replaced one or two of these with newer versions since they are old and tended to break when removed.

For the grips, I had the same issue with both my Burgman and my ST. I ordered Grip Puppies from California Sport Touring that solved that problem for me.
 

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Battery cover (Left Inner Panel)

Since I'm getting things off my chest about the bike, here are some other complaints I have found so far. I certainly don't want to discourage other buyers, and some of these might not be issues for anyone but me, but one of the reasons we have these forums is to discuss things we find about the bike, good and bad. So here' my list…in addition to the MAJOR gripe about the windshield, discussed elsewhere.

The grips are too small to be comfortable for my hands. I'm actually getting callouses on my hands from the grips, even when wearing heavy gloves! I replaced the Shadow's grips with Kuryakyn ISO grips, and may do the same thing on the 1300, especially now that they have these cool black ones. I'm purposely trying to keep things more black than chrome on this bike, so this would be a good match. The only problem is that it would mean I couldn't get heated grips, but heated gloves or liners might work just as well.

The paint finish scuffs extremely easily and looks bad. Perhaps this is more of an issue with the black bike, as it is probably not going to be as noticeable on the other colors. But the bottom part of the fake tank is already badly scuffed just from my jeans rubbing against it, and I can't get rid of these with wax--I'm probably going to have to use plastic polish. I'm even considering getting one of those tank protectors like they use on racing bikes, though I'm not crazy about how they look. There are numerous scuffed areas all over the top surface of the bike; it seems to scuff if you touch it with ANYTHING. I am careful to use only microfiber cloths and the Honda spray cleaner on the bike, and some Meguiar's motorcycle wax. Keeping this bike looking good is going to take a LOT more effort than the Shadow did!

The fairing pockets are mostly useless. Big surprise, right? The left one can hold a mini garage door remote, but you wouldn't want to leave it in there anyway. I have a tin of Altoids, as I don't care if those get stolen. The right pocket has a section that goes down a few inches, but I have to position my phone at PRECISELY the right spot to make it work, and then it is hard to close the pocket lid if the phone is plugged into the USB cable. At this point I'm considering a RAM mount for the phone so I can use it more easily for navigation.

The cover over the battery is tricky to remove and almost impossible to replace; nothing lines up again once it has been taken off. This one is driving me crazy! The plastic tabs that are supposed to snap back into the fairing don't seem to work at all, at least for the two bottom ones. There is a good 1/4" gap, and the cover actually sticks up. I have tried multiple times to fix this but it just keeps happening. It looks terrible and is very frustrating. I'm trying to show off the bike to other people but this keeps me from doing that. It's possible that the bottom-most tab is damaged somewhat; does that mean I will have to order a replacement part every time I need to access the battery compartment?

The parts are put together with plastic retaining "rivets". Maybe this is common on bikes with a lot of plastic. I admit it does make it easier to get the parts off without a screwdriver, but those retainers are very easy to lose. I have lost one already (on the right side "inner panel", as it is called in the service manual) and the auto parts stores don't seem to stock any replacements in the same size. I may have to order a half-dozen or so of these just in case for future needs.

The side stand is in a weird place, is hard to engage, and it makes the bike lean too far to the left. In particular I was trying to clean the left chrome pipes and they were so close to the floor that I could not get to them. I finally put a thick phone book under the stand to get the bike upright enough to clean it. That side stand seems to be REALLY far back; I always have a hard time finding it and catching it with my boot heel. Maybe this will just take practice.

So that's my list so far. All picky things, I suppose, but they all detract from enjoyment of the bike. Perhaps I'm a bit too concerned with the appearance of the bike, but I have always kept mine clean and polished, as they are a prized possession and I am proud of them.

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ON batt cover...
Not sure if you already did this and if not, will it help since I don't have my bike yet. But I do have the showroom Bike's manual (on loan for review while waiting delivery) and see very detailed steps for the cover on Page 88. Maybe worth double checking sequence?
 
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Oh yeah, and about the grips and callouses and such -- have you considered something like a Cramp Buster or Throttle Boss thing that clips o to the grip and provides a palm rest. I love 'em -- it let's you greatly relax your grip on the throttle.
 

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Oh yeah, and about the grips and callouses and such -- have you considered something like a Cramp Buster or Throttle Boss thing that clips o to the grip and provides a palm rest. I love 'em -- it let's you greatly relax your grip on the throttle.
You know, I bought a Throttle Boss for the Shadow when I got the ISO grips. I hated it. I kept hitting it accidentally just riding around town and the bike would suddenly accelerate. It was actually dangerous, so I removed it right away. It looked great but just didn't work for me.

My Gold Wing had one of those clamp-on cruise control thingies. It actually worked pretty well, but you DID have to remember to disengage it!
 

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You know, I bought a Throttle Boss for the Shadow when I got the ISO grips. I hated it. I kept hitting it accidentally just riding around town and the bike would suddenly accelerate. It was actually dangerous, so I removed it right away. It looked great but just didn't work for me.

My Gold Wing had one of those clamp-on cruise control thingies. It actually worked pretty well, but you DID have to remember to disengage it!
I hate the TB on my wife's V Star for the same reason, but I did see a cruise control unit listed here somewhere that disengages when you pull the front brake. I think it was designed for the ST, but worked with the CTX (may have required a little modification).
 

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Grips were ok for me, but I always get the Kury grips just because it makes any bike feel sturdier to me. Yeah, I know it doesn't change anything except my perception.
I agree with the kickstand being a small problem. It is a problem on many bikes though if you have been in many forums. Not all, but many.
One remedy I saw on a GS board was to attach a hockey puck to the stand. I haven't tried it (yet). I just put a small block of wood with a notch
in it for the side stand when parking in the garage so it is almost straight up. The only other time it is a concern, but not a problem yet, is stopping
along the way for my pictures I always worry about it marring up in soft dirt because it leans so far.
Fairing pocket fits my garage door opener with a couple allen wrenches on the left with my USB/music and tire gauge in the right.
No problem with the rivets (prolly just jinxed that).
Heat gun reshaped my battery cover and no problem since.
Hmmmm, haven't noticed the paint as a problem. Now you making me wanna go out and reexamine it. No, not gonna happen, because then I'll
be P.O.'d if I find something no one has noticed before....
 
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Heat gun reshaped my battery cover and no problem since.
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That's a great idea, did it come out ok? Taking it off and blasting it just enough to make things line up better sounds like a perfect solution. Can you give us some more details? I've got a brand new heat gun and I'm not afraid to use it.
OK, maybe a little afraid.
 

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Heat gun reshaped my battery cover and no problem since.
Kewl idea. I need some bending on both sides. Now I have something to screw up today.

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That's a great idea, did it come out ok? Taking it off and blasting it just enough to make things line up better sounds like a perfect solution. Can you give us some more details? I've got a brand new heat gun and I'm not afraid to use it.
OK, maybe a little afraid.
Back at the beginning of the thread or so, someone else mentioned it and I went out and tried it. Heated from the inside so I wouldn't mess up the finish. Heat VERY slowly. That was over a year ago, but I remember I felt it move but couldn't tell it just looking. First attempt didn't work, so I tried it just a bit more force next time.
Don't get it hot, just WARM.
I experimented on some plastics and plexiglass making a mess an ruining a few pieces when I first bought the heat gun. If you haven't used one before, it works like this:
Hmmm it isn't getting hot. The plastic isn't molding. HOLY CRAP, it just melted and became as flexible as a paper towel.
Thus the warning heat SLOWLY.
 
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