CTX 1300 Forum banner

1 - 20 of 24 Posts

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
2,174 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 · (Edited)
Some have seen these before, but this is the first 'official' catalog that I've seen, courtesy of Storm Lake Honda in Iowa. These have been culled from a 3-page PDF. Hope they come out ok.

Note: I'm trying to find out what's the story with the backrest. It's pictured with the rear carrier, and I want to know if everything is included with that $269.95 price tag. Will update as soon as I hear something.

Edit: Forgot -- for info, email Cory at [email protected]. He's been a huge help to me. :)




 

·
Registered
Joined
·
104 Posts
As far as I know, the rear carrier is a SEPARATE item.
I ordered it from Cory and I have that already. $163 I believe was list.

No ETA on the seatback yet though...last I heard (last week) although there is a part number, we are looking at July... ?

Here is a snippet from the install guide for the seatback showing the carrier is sold separately. $300 seems about what I paid for the last seat back I purchased for my V-Strom...

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
446 Posts
I rock don't I ?
:smileygarden_de_ban
Totally!

Now I know so many things more about the accessories, such as the fact that the trunk is quick-detachable (which is awesome) and the fact that the fog light button is already on the bike (with a blank key cap) ;-)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
104 Posts
Totally!

Now I know so many things more about the accessories, such as the fact that the trunk is quick-detachable (which is awesome) and the fact that the fog light button is already on the bike (with a blank key cap) ;-)
You dont know how many times I read the directions on the fog light install and could NOT figure out this button ?!?!

I didnt realize its the BLANK on the one side!!!!

LOL - Duh :350x700px-LL-66dd6d
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
446 Posts
Also, the icing on the cake, the instructions for the trunk have a very detailed explanation on how to assemble the lock so that it opens with the bike's key -- just wonderful.

The locksmiths/security-conscious around (if any) will also notice that the lock can accommodate a rather low number of combinations: 6 possible tumbler heights in 6 positions + 2 possible sub-lock tumblers in one position; this gives 6^6*2 = 46656 * 2 = 93312. I wonder, is this how many CTX1300 is Honda expecting to sell ... worldwide? In US only? In one year? :D

Judging by the fact that the inner cylinder has two unused slots, I would guess the ignition switch uses those two as well, raising the bar to 6^8*2 = 3359232 possible combinations. However, if the key is symmetrical (as is currently the case on Yamahas, for example), the combination space decreases abruptly to 6^3*2 = 432 for the trunk and 6^4*2 = 2592 for the ignition.

Taking all that into account plus the news that the US model does not have H.I.S.S. (i.e. car-style RFID-based immobilizer), I would reckon investing in proper alarm gear and/or a GPS tracker is a must.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hanadarko

·
Registered
Joined
·
104 Posts
Also, the icing on the cake, the instructions for the trunk have a very detailed explanation on how to assemble the lock so that it opens with the bike's key -- just wonderful.

The locksmiths/security-conscious around (if any) will also notice that the lock can accommodate a rather low number of combinations: 6 possible tumbler heights in 6 positions + 2 possible sub-lock tumblers in one position; this gives 6^6*2 = 46656 * 2 = 93312. I wonder, is this how many CTX1300 is Honda expecting to sell ... worldwide? In US only? In one year? :D

Judging by the fact that the inner cylinder has two unused slots, I would guess the ignition switch uses those two as well, raising the bar to 6^8*2 = 3359232 possible combinations. However, if the key is symmetrical (as is currently the case on Yamahas, for example), the combination space decreases abruptly to 6^3*2 = 432 for the trunk and 6^4*2 = 2592 for the ignition.

Taking all that into account plus the news that the US model does not have H.I.S.S. (i.e. car-style RFID-based immobilizer), I would reckon investing in proper alarm gear and/or a GPS tracker is a must.
OMG I think my brain just popped.

:cool:

Kenworths? There are a very low number of different keys. It is suspected that your key likely will open some other Kenworth in a large truck stop.
I was very disappointed when I learned this. Of course they are pathetically easy to enter into anyway and hotwire.

I have a parking brake lock on my rig that is very unique. It is out of reach financially for most independents but a must for me. I can leave it running and never worry about anyone stealing it w/o the unlock key for the air brake. The manufacturer has never had one bypassed or hacked into. Not one rig has been stolen with this lock system. The key is very weird looking and not possible to duplicate anywhere. Kinda like our CTX key in a way.

I wish we had HISS here in the USA. Although the bike is fully insured for REPLACEMENT (1 yr newer actually) I would like to think about how feasible it might be to implement this into the bike.

At least the shear weight of her will stop 2 stupid teens from just picking it up and tossing it into a pickup.

:520:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
446 Posts
I wish we had HISS here in the USA. Although the bike is fully insured for REPLACEMENT (1 yr newer actually) I would like to think about how feasible it might be to implement this into the bike.
If you can find the ECU disabling wire (hint: it's the one that the sidestand sensor acts on), installing a NFC reader with a relay to only "connect" the wire if it saw the right card/fob is relatively easy (akin to what H-D does with the big black keyfob they used before the keyless system).

And if you want to be double-sure, make it a hopping-code system (the NFC card/fob is read, the code compared and if it matches, the card/fob is then overwritten with another code for next time).

At least the shear weight of her will stop 2 stupid teens from just picking it up and tossing it into a pickup.

:520:
YouTube is full of movies showing ... inexperienced ... people trying to load their bike onto a trailer or in the back side of a truck. It's enough if they trash it, they don't have to succeed actually taking it away :-(
 
  • Like
Reactions: hanadarko

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
5,676 Posts
You dont know how many times I read the directions on the fog light install and could NOT figure out this button ?!?!

I didnt realize its the BLANK on the one side!!!!

LOL - Duh :350x700px-LL-66dd6d
You also have the front option connector under the top shelter next to the ignition switch with the wiring from that connector back to the fuse box with a fuse in place. The wiring actually goes through the high/low beam control circuits, high beam for the driving light wire and low beam for the fog light wire in that connector. There is also ground and ACC in that connector. I am using the ACC with the associated 10 amp fuse provided by the factory to power my GPS, and soon my Gerbing electric gloves controller too. Those each take about 1.5-2 amps each so no overload there. I ordered and have the same pins as from the factory to go in those connectors, including the seals to make them waterproof. When I decide on extra lighting up front I'll make use of that connector again. The dummy plug to seal that connector is only missing the pins so I can just snap them in and it's good to go.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
104 Posts
You also have the front option connector under the top shelter next to the ignition switch with the wiring from that connector back to the fuse box with a fuse in place. The wiring actually goes through the high/low beam control circuits, high beam for the driving light wire and low beam for the fog light wire in that connector. There is also ground and ACC in that connector. I am using the ACC with the associated 10 amp fuse provided by the factory to power my GPS, and soon my Gerbing electric gloves controller too. Those each take about 1.5-2 amps each so no overload there. I ordered and have the same pins as from the factory to go in those connectors, including the seals to make them waterproof. When I decide on extra lighting up front I'll make use of that connector again. The dummy plug to seal that connector is only missing the pins so I can just snap them in and it's good to go.
I wonder if I could use that circuit to power the remote garage door transmitter. I had one on my V-strom and all u had to do was flick the high beams on/off once and it would trigger the transmitter and my garage would open. I miss that and had been thinking about getting another.

F2P Technologies - Flash2Pass System for Motorcycle
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
5,676 Posts
Should be possible. I suggest ordering the pins that go into those plugs so you can keep it as "factory" as possible. I originally had some pins that fit, sort of, and put them in the dummy plug to get power for my GPS. I now have the actual pins that work in those plugs and used those today for my 12v socket using the factory plug for the socket option. Go HERE to see my post on my garage door button. You can also go to the link in that post to see my photos that show where I placed my garage door remote. Found the perfect place for it. I just added a pair of wires on each side of the button inside the remote and ran that pair to the button in the photo. Totally isolated from the bike electrics and the battery in my remote have been known to last over 7 years in my experience. I figured this way was far less $$$ than a made for a bike device and freed up connections on the bike for other electrical Farkles.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
104 Posts
You also have the front option connector under the top shelter next to the ignition switch with the wiring from that connector back to the fuse box with a fuse in place. The wiring actually goes through the high/low beam control circuits, high beam for the driving light wire and low beam for the fog light wire in that connector. There is also ground and ACC in that connector. I am using the ACC with the associated 10 amp fuse provided by the factory to power my GPS, and soon my Gerbing electric gloves controller too. Those each take about 1.5-2 amps each so no overload there. I ordered and have the same pins as from the factory to go in those connectors, including the seals to make them waterproof. When I decide on extra lighting up front I'll make use of that connector again. The dummy plug to seal that connector is only missing the pins so I can just snap them in and it's good to go.
According to the wiring diagram, this is how I interpret it:

Front option connector:
G = ground
W/G = FOG (or 12v when on low beam)
R/G = ACC power lead
Bl/Br = HI Switch (or 12v when on high beam)

Does that sound right?

:ty:

Now, how hard is it to GET to this connector?
I am going to try and look in the service manual. Im sure a few pieces have to come off the bike but I dont want to wreck anything with only 300miles on her so far...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
227 Posts
I now have the actual pins that work in those plugs
Where did you get the pins? When I tried my Honda dealer they looked at me as if I was speaking in tongue.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
5,676 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
227 Posts
Dealers don't know squat about these things. The service department may possibly know but won't be telling since that takes away from their income.

Here is the information from ShadowRider on where to get the pins that fit the connectors in the CTX1300 (he was the one who mentioned this source first).
Thanks Bob. By the way, when did yhou buy your bike. I bought mine on 3-25-14 but my serial number is 715. It was the first one my dealer in Jax got in and I bought it before it was finished being assembled. I now have over 4200 miles on it.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
5,676 Posts
Bought mine 4-26-2014. Dealer had it in stock with my name on it before I finalized my decision to buy it. They had it on the floor by 3-21-2014. It was the second one after the Black Deluxe they received a few days before that. I originally received a quote from them on 1-28-2014 as they knew it was coming and just sensed I would buy it from my regular emails to them about it. I think that helped them dig for info on this model. But they still went out of their way to provide good customer service all along the way. I was able to pick it up with only 1 mile on the odo... they went to the gas station to fill it up just before I showed up to take it away :D
Now I have around 1100+ miles on mine but will be adding another 800+ miles by the end of next week :D

I'm sure different dealers around the country get different "sets" of serial numbers sent to them.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
446 Posts
  • Like
Reactions: SoCalRyder
1 - 20 of 24 Posts
Top