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I have a very new CTX 1300 with the red paint scheme. Last weekend I went to the Oyster Run…. a Sturgis-like bike gathering in Western Washington State. During that ride, my right hand hard bag was knocked from the bike and destroyed. Solution? Order a new bag. That is what the dealer who sponsored the ride told me. Many of you probably already know this, but Honda does not sell a complete bag for the CTX1300 as they do for the CTX700. You have to buy it in individual parts, the sum total of which adds up to around $2200 EACH!
That's $4500 for a pair! By point of reference, the CTX 700 does not come with bags like our CTX1300s do. Still, a pair of bags for the CTX 700 will only set you back a bit under $700 at dealer pricing! Not $4500 as for the CTX1300!

To say I was shocked and enraged would be playing down the point. The dealer tried to get a complete bag. No dice. I finally ended up calling Honda Motorcycle North America and spoke at length with a Customer Relations specialist. He initially thought that there was a mistake. He took a day to look into it. When he called me back he was sympathetic, but said that the pricing was what it was. And there was really nothing that he could do about it.

That is patently ridiculous. I am certain that there was nothing that he could do, but Honda Motorcycles could do whatever they chose to do. And in this case, (and I am making a couple assumptions here) I believe that since an insurance company is involved, they are choosing to not do anything.

I made the point to the representative that this is not costing me anything. But what of the hapless CTX1300 rider that doesn't have insurance? There is NO way that anyone can convince me that two fairly poorly designed plastic hard bags makes up virtually 1/3 the value of the bike!

If this is Honda's over-all attitude towards its customers, then I am seriously thinking about picking up something different. As much as I love my CTX1300, to have to experience this confiscatory pricing for parts is just something I can't tolerate.

Likely I will put humpty-dumpty back together, and then sell this machine and go back to a big twin in the Spring.

In chatting with the representative, I got the distinct impression that there likely will not be another production year of this bike. That in and of itself is sad because it is a great machine. But if the 2014 is the only production run there will be, parts are going to start drying up relatively quickly compared to other models. True, it may become somewhat of a collector's bike, but probably not in my lifetime!

Anyone have any thoughts on this? On Honda's treatment of a long-time rider of their bikes? On the very future of our CTXs?
 
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The pricing on the saddlebags is absolutely ridiculous. You mean each of the bags costs more then either of my two previous motorcycles?? I could literally buy two mid-80's classics in perfect condition with enough left over for a helmet and a jacket for the price of just the bags on the CTX1300. That's insane. I can see that I have extra incentive to never let my insurance lapse on this machine. I hope the Honda rep was wrong about there not being another production year. And I hope they get their costs leveled out before anyone else has to take such a nasty knock to their finances.
 
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I hear you. The VTX1300 twin I traded in on my CTX1300 was a 2007 model and I paid $3900 for it last year when I purchased it used with about 12,000 miles on it. For that same $3900 I cannot even purchase the bags for a CTX1300! I am very happy that I purchased insurance for my CTX. Here in Washington State insurance is not required. Many riders do not have it.
 
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I think there is some kind of mistake in the Honda database parts/price. Did you get a detailed estimate with each part# and cost?
Honestly I wouldn't replace the original (even if the insurance is paying) and I would add the trunk and some other saddlebags...and sell the other original saddlebags on Ebay to partially cover the costs.
Or maybe there is someone in this forum interested to sell the original saddlebags in order to install custom ones.
 
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Yes. I was provided the complete list and parts pricing breakdown. The parts bandit site has parts as well. They are less in most all cases from what the dealer is charging, but that is to be expected. For example, parts bandit has the back support box (the part that actually mounts the assembly to the bike) at around $800. The dealer price was $940 for the same part. Still, even at $800 bucks for that one part alone Honda is out of line charging what they do.
 
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That must explain why my insurance premium for collision is so high, i.e. more than half the total premium. See attached. Much different than the ratios for my car.

I didn't pay this amount this year, but may next year.

Which supports the advice about checking insurance before purchasing a vehicle. Obviously I did not do so.

All that said, I won't sell my CTX for that reason. Not only do I like it, but I'd take a loss on selling it, then another loss on buying another and paying sales tax too.

According to this post, Honda will make a 2016.

BTW I attended the Oyster Run also. Didn't see another CTX that day, tho that wasn't surprising. Apparently we had at least three there - you, me, and Will B.
 

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According to this post, Honda will make a 2016.
Slightly off topic but I asked my dealer today about the rumors of a 2016 CTX1300 and he said Honda hasn't released any information confirming that as of today's date.

He did say that Honda still has some additional 2016 model information to release in the November time frame but nobody knows what that might be.

I'd also been wondering about parts and accessory availability and in large part that prompted me to get the chrome valve covers without waiting any longer for the list price ($349.-) :mad: to come down.

When I spoke to him last week, wondering whether the CTX1300 stock was thinning out he said he could still get them in any of the three colors from his Chicago warehouse distributor, but that the price would increase $1000 commencing October 1st. Checking their website today that was confirmed: went from $10,900 to $11,900 for the base (no options) Deluxe model.

They're the biggest Honda dealer in Iowa and have always been straight with me so I have no reason to doubt their information.
 
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Not really surprised at the cost of the bags. I low sided my 98 ST1100 back in 2010 and the insurance covered OEM pricing and labor for all parts to be replaced that were damaged. They also let me do the repairs so paid me the amounts for parts and labor (based on the local Honda shop rates to replace each part) in a claim check. I got all my OEM parts from CheapCycleParts.com. They had included the outer saddlebag shell (not even the reflector or latches or hinge parts) at $430 (CCP price about $350). This on an 11 year old bike. I know the plastic is stiffer on the ST, I consider that not as good since it is also more brittle. I don't consider the bags on my CTX all that bad really. Same basic design as on my GL and ST and better latch IMO than the ST (I really didn't like those latches even if they were metal).

I'm not real concerned about parts drying up from Honda. Parts must legally be available for at least 10 years after any vehicle is discontinued. Had that issue with my first bike... a small Harley that was out of production 7 years when I bought it and needed a cast metal part a year later. I got that one direct from HD.
 
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This morning, I hit a deer and it completely destroyed my left (clutch-side) saddle bag on my Red 2014 CTX1300. Just got home and found this thread. Wow! I was hoping this wouldn't be so expensive to replace.

I am starting to wonder if maybe I should just ditch the right one and buy aftermarket saddle bags that are larger. I'm going to research that now.
 
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This morning, I hit a deer and it completely destroyed my left (clutch-side) saddle bag on my Red 2014 CTX1300.
Yikes, sorry to hear that! Hope you are ok and that the rest of your bike made it through alright.
 
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I was thinking about that as well. A bracket that connects to the lower mounting point and the bolt-plate would be very handy. It would take a little persnickity CAD work, but once it was done...
 
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1 take a picture of all four sides of the bag. one picture of the inside using a flashlight.
2 use Photoshop to smooth the corners in the pictures.
3 run the pictures through a Visual Basic compiler to convert them to machine code.
4 connect a USB 3d printer
5 press ctrl-p
6 finish off with a can of spray paint.

Not hard, and you have extra spray paint for your next project.
 
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I'm sorry for those who have already damaged their bags beyond repair, but I hope to be building 1" steel tubing saddlebag guards this week. I will start a new thread when the first set is finished. I don't know the total cost yet but it won't be a Honda style gouging.
 
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Why would you want to buy aftermarket saddle bags? If I understand this correctly (given the rate Honda has dropped CTX prices), if you pull the trigger and buy two OEM bags, you might eventually be able to get Honda to throw in a CTX bike for free. Maybe that could have been their marketing campaign... Regardless, it seems a way too pricey for something that more meets the definition of 'form' than 'function'. That said, I have grown attached to mine and use them daily for work, and this thread has allowed me to justify to my wife why I have insurance on this bike.
 
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good thing the bike looks so good without them
that's how mine would end up
and a $150 set of soft bags for when I needed them
never in my life would I spend that on my bags
and if the insurance paid it I would cash it in and pay off a car and still ride it naked (the bike)
 
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Yes, I still may do that. Since these stupid bags are apparently the most valuable part of the bike, I gotta let insurance pay for it. Once I am all set, I may detach them and take the money.

If I had no insurance, I am certain I would have just sold the other one and got soft bags. You are correct, the bike looks great without them anyway.
 
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I order a side panel for the bag, a wind gust blew the bike down when it was sitting in a upright position in my garage with a board under the kickstand to check the oil. This unit eats oil for lunch, not happy 1/2 quart every 300 miles. I am beyond upset this unit does not come with a center stand. Parts are outlandish in cost! I wish I would have purchase a different machine. The tall windshield from Honda is a joke if your my height of 5' 11". You sure get your brain rattled around by the wind turbulence.

At 3,000+ mile mark in less than of month in service there is more rattles in the unit than a car with 250,000 miles.

This is a great looking bike and fun to ride but the ST1300 sure had things put together right.

Keep in mind I am just venting here about the fit and finish and the bags that everything gets wet in.

Happy riding
 
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Yikes! Sorry about all the issues you are having. That oil problems sounds pretty severe; I would have to add oil like three times just on one of my medium-length rides. I have over 12,000 miles and haven't ever had to add oil between changes. Would that be covered under warranty? I am on the opposite end of the spectrum as far as the tall windshield goes. I'm a big fan of the shorty, and I wish the taller shield was maybe 4 inches shorter. I'm 6'0", and I admit that I like things a little more windy than most folks. It sounds like there are a few people who drew the short end of the stick when it comes to build quality on these bikes. I'm very happy that I don't have any serious complaints about mine. I even rode through a torrential downpour on the Blueridge Parkway, and the bags kept my stuff completely dry. Of course, I wasn't traveling at 80 on an interstate, so maybe that is the issue. Good luck, and I hope things get sorted out.
 
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Let me know if you decide to ditch the right one and how much you want for it. (Yes I already had an incident.) Or if you find good after market bags let me know. I might go that route, just on principle. I already started looking into a set of Givi monokey bags and making my own mounting bracket but so far they havent been any help in giving me information.
 
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Getting information from Givi is like pulling hen's teeth!!!!
I was thinking I'd like a top loading saddlebag, but would be open to considering any.
I've been hit from the rear on the right by another biker, BUT the bags are rigid, hard, and sturdy.
The guy that hit me was laying on the ground cursing with lots more damage than me.
I just have a chip out of the panel and a good crease in the right exhaust. His handle bars, crash bars, left running board, gear shift, were all mangled pretty bad.
Oh, and I had a cut in the fabric under the right hand edge of the seat.
I'd like to spend the $$ on some alternate bags before my wife takes it and takes over the garage for more shoes/purses/clothes!!!
 
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Anyone have an opinion on how the Givi E41 would look on the bike. The V35 has that funny curved back, but the E41 is flat on the back. Several have DIY fitted top cases already. Shouldn't be too difficult to do the side case mounts.
Others have done the same on other bikes like the Burgman scooters. It should fit a full face helmet and with a DIY rack, should be able to make it fit close.
The only other bag I've seen so far that I like the looks of is the RS type bag like the V-Star bikes have.
The Givi is side opening, but could be mounted on the top if the reason ever presented itself.
The RS bags are top opening and still water tight (at least they were on my 950).
Anyhoo, just stirring the pot of ideas to see what may present itself.
 
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I wonder how much CTX parts cost in Japan...
 
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Here my CTX1300 in the new "short trip configuration" , until I mount some saddlebag guards or there is a good alternative to the original saddlebags.
BTW I didn't notice any difference in riding with or without saddlebags (mostly mountain road).
 

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I purchased the "tall" windshield from Honda.. followed a Youtube video posted by Dubbsrider on how to install it. Worked great. He made one mistake in his video… and that was concerning the little retaining ring around two of the screws. As mentioned a bit earlier… these apparently fold over fairly easily, preventing you from full seating the mirror. But, keep em straight. But I digress. The windshield. I am 6'8" tall. Since putting the stock Honda tall windshield on my bike I have enjoyed riding it. No buffeting from the wind and I would imagine I am probably the tallest guy on this forum! My only real constraint is where my knees end up relative to the fairing. Maybe a half inch to spare. I am still perturbed with Honda about their parts pricing for the saddle bags. I have found a couple of websites that have OEM parts for the CTX though, and their prices are significantly less than what the dealers charge on the more expensive parts. About the same on the less expensive ones. So I likely will take my insurance check and purchase from these sites and save a few hundred dollars over what Honda is trying to charge.

My next wants for the bike… highway pegs, driving or flood lights, and something to make the bike more lit-up from the rear. Several have commented that the tail light really is not that noticeable from behind unless you are in a very narrow range of angles.

Anyone dealt with that issue yet?